Review Detail
1.9 117Started Out Great - Turned Kind of Creepy Now
(Updated: November 28, 2012)
Overall rating
2.6
Slots
1.0
Table Games
N/A
Customer Service
4.0
Player's Club
4.0
Gaming Atmosphere
1.0
Amenities or Hotel
N/A
Food & Drink
3.0
I smoke at the casino because i don't smoke in my house....but this place really smells like smoke! You can smell it as soon as you open the door to the elevator lobby off of the parking garages--six or seven floors above the actual casino. Coming from a smoker, I can only say that I can only imagine what nonsmokers think!
However, my really big problem with the place, and the reason that I have decided not to go there anymore, is that there are a lot of regulars (please read on, I am not opposed to regulars in general, because I happened to have be one of them). The regulars that I refer to are groups of regulars that are like slot stalkers and another group of regulars that are moochers. I would like to think that they are not an officially organized group, but they are groups, and I have started to notice them (after a year of being in a slot coma when I am in there:)
The slot stalkers sit around and watch particular popular machines that are heavily played. They seem to know a good deal about these machines and the payout rates, and count the amount of money going in. They don't play much while they are sitting at a nearby machine watching. They hit spin, and then take a drink, look at their phone, fidget around and then hit spin again five or more minutes later, so officially they are legally sitting at a machine. As soon as a loser gets up from a heavily played machine, they jump onto it and play until it hits (which, by the way is usually pretty quickly after they get on). Now, I suppose that one can say that there is nothing to be done about such behavior, and I suppose that this is part of gambling....losing to others, but it seems a bit unfair that these groups seem to be there all the time, work together, and seem to know when other non-stalker regulars are likely to come in (and put money into favorite machines.) Once that I noticed that this was happening, I actually sat aside myself and watched more carefully a couple of times and there was no doubt that they were doing this. It felt very creepy and predatory, and that is not the feeling that I want to get when I go to the casino to relax.
Other regulars are cigarette moochers, money moochers, people asking for rides, and dollars, and others trying to sell things (like a lighter?? [really?] to get money. This casino is in a very urban location, and easy to get to. There is a lot of security here, a lot of cameras too. The staff is really nice, and the machines seem to be well monitored by them, so I am not sure why this is going unnoticed. I was kind of excited to have a casino relatively nearby, and when first opened, it was really nice to go there, and look around, play slots, have a drink, maybe eat. But now that I have noticed this weird thing, I just get really, really creeped out by this kind of predatory-like behavior, so I'm not going there anymore. I would say that if you are coming from out of town, be careful if you go there and stay aware. Again, you will be safe there because there is a lot of security, but be aware of what I would call the underlying culture of the place -- and there is a lot of it. Sorry Rivers. I thought that you were great! But it is not fun there anymore because of this. I am going to try other, not so close to the city, casinos. I just like to have fun and relax, but this weird behavior just doesn't work to that end.
However, my really big problem with the place, and the reason that I have decided not to go there anymore, is that there are a lot of regulars (please read on, I am not opposed to regulars in general, because I happened to have be one of them). The regulars that I refer to are groups of regulars that are like slot stalkers and another group of regulars that are moochers. I would like to think that they are not an officially organized group, but they are groups, and I have started to notice them (after a year of being in a slot coma when I am in there:)
The slot stalkers sit around and watch particular popular machines that are heavily played. They seem to know a good deal about these machines and the payout rates, and count the amount of money going in. They don't play much while they are sitting at a nearby machine watching. They hit spin, and then take a drink, look at their phone, fidget around and then hit spin again five or more minutes later, so officially they are legally sitting at a machine. As soon as a loser gets up from a heavily played machine, they jump onto it and play until it hits (which, by the way is usually pretty quickly after they get on). Now, I suppose that one can say that there is nothing to be done about such behavior, and I suppose that this is part of gambling....losing to others, but it seems a bit unfair that these groups seem to be there all the time, work together, and seem to know when other non-stalker regulars are likely to come in (and put money into favorite machines.) Once that I noticed that this was happening, I actually sat aside myself and watched more carefully a couple of times and there was no doubt that they were doing this. It felt very creepy and predatory, and that is not the feeling that I want to get when I go to the casino to relax.
Other regulars are cigarette moochers, money moochers, people asking for rides, and dollars, and others trying to sell things (like a lighter?? [really?] to get money. This casino is in a very urban location, and easy to get to. There is a lot of security here, a lot of cameras too. The staff is really nice, and the machines seem to be well monitored by them, so I am not sure why this is going unnoticed. I was kind of excited to have a casino relatively nearby, and when first opened, it was really nice to go there, and look around, play slots, have a drink, maybe eat. But now that I have noticed this weird thing, I just get really, really creeped out by this kind of predatory-like behavior, so I'm not going there anymore. I would say that if you are coming from out of town, be careful if you go there and stay aware. Again, you will be safe there because there is a lot of security, but be aware of what I would call the underlying culture of the place -- and there is a lot of it. Sorry Rivers. I thought that you were great! But it is not fun there anymore because of this. I am going to try other, not so close to the city, casinos. I just like to have fun and relax, but this weird behavior just doesn't work to that end.
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Carla
Comments
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November 28, 2012
Most likely, the stalkers that you mention are watching a certain kind of slot machine called a "banking slot machine." Those are machines that have a jackpot that builds up and must be paid out at a certain point. As an example, some will have two jackpots: a mini and a maxi. The mini may have to hit by $50 and the maxi may have to hit by $500. The stalkers then watch other players build up the jackpots and if those players leave those machines with an amount that is close to the required payout the stalkers then play the machine until it pays out the jackpot.
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Steve Bourie
November 28, 2012
In reply to an earlier comment
Thanks so much for your insightful comment. You know, amature gamblers really do just like to have fun, relax, and win sometimes. Maybe this accounts for why so many reviewers here and on other sites have said that this casino never pays out -- too many of the regular stalkers winning? Anyway, it is good to now be aware, but sad not to want to go there anymore. I hope that our comments might help others who want to have fun at casinos. Thanks again.
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Carla
November 28, 2012
In reply to an earlier comment
Oh, I cannot believe that I forgot to mention the most annoying (and maybe somewhat unethical thing that the stalkers do). I have seen this repeatedly, and it annoys the heck out of me. Usually there are bank of machines that are same placed together. I guess that this is a casino thing. After winning on a machine, the stalker will take the big win ticket out, put in a dollar spin til they lose, and then cash out so that the machine shows that this player did not win on this machine. They then put the big ticket win into a machine that has not paid out yet, so that a dumb-ass loser, will likely play the machine that just hit (thinking that it has not) and start building up the 'time to win' again on this already winning machine. I don't know if you know what I mean, but it is some kind of method that they use to keep the losers dumping money into the machines so that they can get it. I find this to be very, very annoying and unethical, but I suppose there is no real reason that they are not permitted to do it.
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carla
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