I lost over 15k on theses tight slots they simply do not payout im not sure what there % rate is but I have watched these slots take 100 dollars without one single pay back its very disturbing and scary. they collect slot players money like nothing I have seen people waist there whole 1000 dollars in a matter if 45 min. my advice is to stay away sands is bad news there a rip off and there comps are lousy.