You know I've been going to Winstar now for over three years now. I think I got those old babies figured out. I win most everytime. Thats more than most can say. Now Here is what I do. I play mostly the three reelers you know the ones with three turning wheels. I go to the cashier and exchange a $20 for 20-$1. I start out on the 25c slots. Put $2 in no more. Play 8 rolls. If you don't hit go to the next slot. If you do hit play out your quarters and put another dollar in. If you hit over $25 put that slip in to your pocket and leave it there. I win around $25-200 most of the time. After I am ahead a little I have fun playing the other slots. I do lose once in a while but that is just $20. Try it. Let us know how you did. Chuck